I am attempting meld christian objectivst principles with Process Theology. And I need help.

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1. To pursue a quality life man must put his own interests first based on his reason and logic above and beyond any group or any groups interest or influence in accordance with MQM. (sans physical force). The feedback of failure must be open to achieve correction. Any power that attempts to even the field or correct for some inequality is robbing the lessers valuable experience in how to cope and achieve the next level of success.

2. To attain the highest quality of life, man must pursue, support and influnce his intimate relationships as long as they do not conflict with rule1. No man is an island. and success is impossible alone.

3. To attain the highest quality of life, man must pursue, support and influence his government as long as they do not conflict with rules 1 and 2. Government must be limited, but individuals need to be involved.

4. To attain the highest quality of life, man must pursue God, as long as this pursuit does not do not conflict with rules 1 and 2 and 3. God is the key to living without fear, and the ultimate guaranteer of Justice and Peace.





Rule 1 -- the Goal:
Preeminence of Individual Thought.
Do not have life, but have Life abundantly. Have as much as you can...attain heights beyond your grandparents. Break new ground, or hold the ground you've got. If your profession is non-edifying, seek another, or, find those things that will make you a richer and more dynamic person. Prepare yourself for when you are 50, and try to ensure you've left nothing out. The world does not owe you retirement -- prepare for it.
Marry and have children -- the former supports the later. Children give us so much love its difficult to see how rule 1 could be attained without them. Make peace with God, for death is the end of everyone's story...and the beginning.


Rule 2 -- the Family:
mostly deals with family and friends...those people we are somewhat determined to be with from the outset of our life. It is a value to have children, since they pass on your ethics and values, and they give you love, which is very much in the realm of rule 1. I would say that children are every bit as important as any capitalist or govermental work, and had rand had children, her next heroine would have been a mother.
Our bonds to siblings and parents are volitional upon adulthood, and one must not accept the argument, "he's your brother" as have any leverage over them. Blood is not a chain around our will. However, I feel that a tight family/friend network is essential to the continuing success of any one individual. humans need other humans, and the more quality connections you keep, both your professional and personal life will be richer.

Rule 3 -- The Country:
Dying in a war for your country is a tough one. You see, dying violates rule 1. However, without government that allows freedom, rule 1 is in jepoardy anyway, as is our families and future.

Rule 4 -- God:
True happiness will not be attained by those who feel there is no afterlife, no justice, no meaning outside of our own mortality. For what is real is real forever, and independent of mankind. eg. Does the value of human life dissapear after human life leaves the stage ? If we are to mean Objective, it means to be outside of our perceptions. If concepts are objective, if they are real, they must exist in another consiousness, somehow woven into the fabric of the universe.


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One of the problems with Atheistic Objectivisim is justice. Clearly there is no justice on earth. Oliver David Cruz, 33, sentenced to death for the 1988 abduction, rape and fatal stabbing of a 24-year-old woman, Kelly Donovan, who was a Kelly Air Base linguist in San Antonio. Cruz was executed on 8/9/2000. It is interesting how the liberal media puts EVERY execution, especially those out of Texas ( George W. Bush's state ) on the wire and creates some false expectation/hope of a stay of execution. This 'poor' man who since he was slightly retarded was totally capable of the acts he did was clearly a broken unit. There was no stay for Miss Donovan and I bet her murder didn't even make the UPI.

However, even though he was indeed put out of our misery via lethal injection, there really was no justice. We lost alot more when Kelly Donovan was killed, and there is no return on Cruz's death. What is lost is still lost.

I feel that those who die brutally at the hands of evil will recieve special dispensation from God. If we are to believe that our God is a Just God, that God cried as much as the Donovan family did when this beast did what he id, then we have to accept that the scales will be rebalanced. was at least slightly retarded.

Without Religious Metaphysics there is no justice. Without God there is no justice.
Since I have the impression of justice, then it must exist. Existence applies to concepts as well as matter. Since Justice is real and a pursuable concept, it must exist outside of man. If it cannot possibley be attained on earth, then it must be attain outside of our current reality, the meta-reality, the true reality.

For what we see here, per plato's cave, are just shadows on the wall -- not the things, but perceptions of things, a blurry image of Reality's true nature.

Life is the same. We are merely shadows of the glory that is to come.

Or is that so ? The real things we see, and believe, are real everywhere and outside of our perception. Is it necessary to invoke plato ?



Bertrand Russel argued against the necessity for justice with this analogy....If we open a crate of oranges and see that the top level of oranges are rotten, then are we to say that the rest of the oranges must be good becuase that would be justice ? Or fair ?

There is a subtle slight of hand here. What Bertrand uses for analogy is testable experience such as decaying fruit. But what I speak of is the concept of Justice is innate in mankind. Concepts are testable only by intelligent beings, and in their domain.

Though cultures may have different ways to mete out justice, Justice is a universal concept nevertheless. With that we have to cover the nature of universal concepts of humanity. What are they ? We have many...collaboration, the need for other people ( lonliness ), to have children, to have fun, to laugh, saddness at death, etc. These are things that I will say are conceptual objects.

These concepts are as hard and real as the desk I lean on or the keyboard upon which i type. They exist outside and independant of human interpretation.
Concepts are real, but if you erase humanity, do concepts then vanish ? If they are real and nonsubjective, then they must reside inside of some meta-intelligence. These conceptual objects reside in God's mind, and indeed expose God's nature and thus the nature of our reality.

So was the fruit shown an injustice by the microorganisms feeding off of it ? Of course not, its a scientific reality that bugs like fruit, and if you wait too long they'll have it. This leads us to an interesting conclusion -- there is no justice in the animal kingdom. Indeed, this should not surprise us. Humans are a new type of animal. We survive by our Reason, not our strength, speed, teeth, camaflouge.

In summary, the concept of justice has allowed man to survive and flourish, and the concept is universal. These two facts make it a Objective Concept. Since it is readily apparent that justice is often missed by humans, even with the best intentions and information available, we must say that the remainder, balancing of the scales, righting the wrongs, is done in the after life, by a loving and just God.


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The Three Laws of Robotics are:
1. A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

From Handbook of Robotics, 56th Edition, 2058 A.D., as quoted in I, Robot.

In Robots and Empire (ch. 63), the "Zeroth Law" is extrapolated, and the other Three Laws modified accordingly: 0. A robot may not injure humanity or, through inaction, allow humanity to come to harm. Unlike the Three Laws, however, the Zeroth Law is not a fundamental part of positronic robotic engineering, is not part of all positronic robots, and, in fact, requires a very sophisticated robot to even accept it.



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